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Good morning, someone told me that all the newsletters is confusing members.

Ok short and sweet, we are revenue sharing all our profits and earnings from the beginning to the members that are not in profit.

Then we are going to a Revenue share on the other income only. You will still need to surf to share in that Revenue.

Does that make sense? We are going Private and will not let anyone else in the program.

I hope this will Help all Members understand what we are doing.

All strictpay past payouts are complete. Thanks you all Steve


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Wow - what a crazy day this has been!

Ad-Venture4u.com Second update from my up line news letter
This last email update he sent out was very interesting and seems to imply that the revenue share is not over?

Let me go through his email line-by-line for everyone. (I'm going to forgive any misspellings and not even bother pointing them out. We all know Steve's style.)

* He said "I have not done anything with the earnings, only done cashouts that members requested from the beginning." Quite honestly, this is ambiguous even to me. One interpretation I have is that when he said "I have not done anything with the earnings..." I think he might be saying "I have never "ran off" with your money, I have always paid the members just as promised." I think that's what he is saying.
* He said "I have never missed a payout and if you all let me I will make sure all of you get your revenue share to the ones that is not in profit already." Speaking as someone who has been in Ad-Ventures4U since Day 1, the former part of his statement is absolutely true. I have never seen a program of this kind handle payouts so efficiently! Regarding the latter part of his statement, it seems obvious to me that he is telling people to BACK OFF and let him do what he has done all along. The primary concern is to get all the existing members in profit mode.

* He said "Please give me at least the respect that I have been here and have paid out every single time." I agree with Steve on this point, but I would also suggest that he get on the phone with me so that we can clarify all this once and for all. His emails today have scared a lot of people, confused a lot of people, and made many others take a "Hahaha - I told you it was a scam." type of attitude. Steve ... dude - I'm here for you man. Let's clear this up with a simple phone call. You and me, one-on-one ... recorded and sent to the members. Done and done. Or at the very least - let me write your updates for you ... we love you man, but you suck at getting your point across in email. :)
* He said "You think I am doing this because I am a scammer? Think again, I am doing this because I cannot control the issues of hackers, scammers and the threats." Well, regarding the former part of that statement, I believe the vast majority of Ad-Ventures4U members do NOT think you're a scammer, but with all the ambiguity in these emails, it is natural that some people are going to jump to that conclusion.
* He said "If you give me the chance I will payout the earnings this week to all the members and I will make sure I use my portion of the gold to continue to payout." I don't feel any comment is needed here. This line is actually quite comprehensible on its own.
* He said "I am still here and have not gone anywhere. The site says and always has said the there is no quarentee of any income." Regarding the former statement, I for one appreciate these updates ... it proves that he is right. He hasn't gone anywhere and is still communicating with us. I've always said that when an admin "goes quiet", that's when it's time to worry. Regarding the latter comment, that is true and anyone who has been responsible in their sponsoring efforts will have always told their prospects that earnings are not guaranteed.
* He said "It also said that we have the right to change the program at any time." That's a point that I never bothered to notice myself, but it's common. Most businesses have a CYA clause that allows them to adjust the terms & conditions at will.
* He said "Now with that said let me do my job and revenue share all the remaining share back to you." Another point that doesn't really need any clarification. He's reiterating that he would like everyone to quit freaking out and let him get back to work. Easier said than done in light of the "terrifying" email that landed in our Inbox this morning.

This next part is really interesting:

Did you know people are still buying advertisement in our site and all that will be continued to be paid out. THis is not dead, we are not going anywhere. We are just changing and getting away from the revenue share for new members only. And we will continue to share. Maybe some don't understand, we just are not sharing revenue weekly. We will share until the cows come home just with not new members. please understand.


Ah-ha! According to that paragraph, the revenue share will continue for existing members. If I read that correctly, they are closing the doors toward new membership. If that is correct, that is 100% in line with an email that Steve sent on August 11th where he said "We are here to stay and I would highly suggest you get yourself leverage while the opp is here. (hint)"

That "(hint)" caused quite a few questions to be raised. What was he hinting at? Well, I asked Steve in an email what he meant by that. I said:

Hint? Hmm... going to close down the option to buy ventures?


He replied back to me with:

didn't say that,


I replied back to him with:

Right ... I was just trying to guess what you meant by "hint"

You said to leverage ourselves while the opp (which I assume means opportunity) is still here.

To me, that insinuates that the opportunity [to leverage ourselves] won't always be there.

I was just trying to apply logic and reason to read between the lines. After all ... you baited us by saying (hint) :)


Steve replied back with:

I don't want it to get out but I may one day shut off the purchasing of ventures and just rely on the gold to pay us. If cash4gold can buy quarter of a million every three months, we would just need a small % of that to continue to earn what we need to keep us a float. Although I will never turn off the earnings for ventures until we reach that point. Hope this helps

Well - now it's "out" - clearly, so I feel comfortable sharing that private email communication with everyone. I think if Steve had communicated this point more clearly earlier on, today's insanity would not have ensued. (But then, what fun would there be in that? Trust me - I'm joking by that last remark.)

Continuing on with the final paragraph of the email he just sent. He said:

Members are pushing the payment proccessors and I am trying my best to keep them alive. Please the cashout button will be on the site soon and you will earn. So please hang in there for me. I am still here and you are here. THis is not over and I will do my best.


In closing, I would like to say that people are welcome to share this update with whomever you like. I am already getting viciously attacked, thrown under the bus, yelled at, accused, etc... and I'm not even the owner of the program! So I can't even imagine what kind of flack Steve is getting.

But I am providing these updates to HELP people. I will endure the personal attacks because I believe my updates are useful and informative.

David Courtney



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PayItForwardTraffic.com- Important Infor about todays Events and our Future‏

Pay It Forward News letter
Hello everyone,

It's been a crazy day in the Revenue Sharing World! I'm sure most have heard the news by now about Ad-ventures4u. There was some confusion earlier and many thought they were closing for good. This now appears not to be the case, but seems they wont be revenue sharing for new members any more and are making changes to their program. I do suggest you read all their updates they sent out today.

In any case, this was a complete shock to everyone and is sending shock waves throughout the Revenue Sharing Industry.

Many members have been asking me if I know what happened or think happened to cause all these changes. I really don't know and it's really not my place to speculate as to what happened. Steve gave his reasons in his updates, so you either accept that or you don't. I know many members have a lot of money in their program and are wanting to get all or as much back as possible and as quickly as possible. So, it will do no good to go around making threats to him, his family, or complaining to the payment processors. I've been around long enough to know that the harder you make it on the Admins in this situation, the harder it becomes to get your money out. Plus, it seems they have a well thought out plan to continue their revenue sharing to existing members anyway. With that said, let them do what they need to do
and see what happens.


Some members also assume that I know Steve and that we are friends. I don't know Steve and have never even talked to him on the phone. I was looking forward to eventually talking to him on the phone and still would like to evenutally talk to him someday. Rather you like him now or not, he ran a great program and there are a great deal of things/tips that he could probably teach the rest of the Revenue Sharing Sites.


I've been getting emails and talking on the phone most of the day with both members and promoters of Ad-ventures4u. Many are now looking toward PIFT as their number one site to earn from Revenue Sharing and from promoting. But, everyone wants assurance that we are going to be around for the long haul and that we have things in place to ensure that the will not suddenly close up shop. Drastically change the terms or our weekly revenue share percentages.

Well, first off I can't assure or guarantee that we will be around forever or that revenue share percentages will remain the same as they have been. Our program is a Revenue Sharing Site which is based on revenue coming into our program. If the revenue slows down or stops it will effect how much everyone earns in our weekly Revenue Sharing. The less money we have coming in the less we can pay, it's that simple. But, with that said there are things we can do to help ensure our site runs smoothly and that members remain happy and continue to make purchases of advertising in our program. There are also things we can do to help build up sources of income in the future so that we don't have to strictly rely on purchasing of advertising from memebrs.

With Ad-ventures4u being the first and biggest site of this nature. PIFT has been able to watch them and learn from them. We have already taken a number of steps to ensure the stability of PIFT. Here are just some of the major things we have done or are in the process of doing.

1)Recent script change. New script is designed specifically for our Revenue Sharing model. Script is more secure, more efficient, and can handle an extremely large amount of members.

2)Offshore hosting on a dedicated server with all the necessary protections in place. Daily backups and monitoring.

3)Development of other websites in process. None of which will require large amounts of money establish, but will be good sources of income in the future.

4)Online sources of income such as sites like ours and other low return programs that have been established for long periods of time. *

5)Offline sources of income. Various type of investments that are stable and produce nice returns. *

6)Reserve Funds are kept to ensure payouts for an ample amount of time. This allows us time to make any changes to our program if needed and slowly adjust the weekly Revenue Earnings if necessary.

7)Constant monitoring of Revenue Share Model and program terms. We monitor all funds in and out of our program. If we feel there are some terms of our program that need to be adjusted to ensure the stability of our program we will make the changes as necessary. We feel it's very important to be proactive instead of reactive as far as it concerns the model and terms we are following.

8)Contests, New Features, and More. We are constantly adding new features to our program, running different contests, and more. This keeps our members coming back for more and keeps our program exciting. You just never know what we are going to come up with next at PIFT!

9)Advice and Guidance of others. I talk to a lot of people that have been in this industry for a long time and constantly get good ideas, advice, and suggestions on how to make our program better. These prople are Admins, Promoters, Investors, and just regular Members of other programs. Rarely will we make any major changes at PIFT
without consulting others and getting there opinions. This alone has been a great factor in how we have gotten to where we are now.

10)Dedicated Admin. Anyone that knows me or has talked to me on the phone, knows I'm dedicated to do what is necessary to see that PIFT is a success. I spend countless hours working on the site and doing other things to ensure that PIFT remains around for a long time to come. I've made it known who I am and have talked to many people over the phone, done interviews, etc.

* Note: Building up online and offline sources of income takes time in a revenue sharing program do to the fact most revenue is paid back out to members and another good portion is used for reserves. But, we do use as much from the Admin percentages as we can to put toward online and offline sources of income.


Getting to know your Admin
Speaking of interviews as mentioned above. I recently did two interviews with David Courtney about our program. They are well worth listening to if you want to hear me and know more about our program.

http://www.payitforwardtraffic.com/audio/PIFT_Interview_by_David_Courtney.mp3
http://www.payitforwardtraffic.com/audio/PIFT_Update_by_David_Courtney_20090826.mp3

If you want to get on David's Email list go here. http://magicwealthbuilder.com/

I highly recommend it. It gives a lot of insight as to what's going on in the industry.


Keeping up to date with our program
Another very important thing that members can do is make sure they read all our updates. We send updates out on a regular basis and by not reading these your earnings could be effected or you can miss some very important news.
If you want to make sure you don't miss any of our updates and also get Alerts to your desktop when we post earnings. Download our PIFT Toolbar. It's free and only takes a few minutes to install. You can download it from the link below:

http://PayItForwardTrafficcom.OurToolbar.com/

You can also visit our Forum and Support Center at:

http://www.pifsupport.com/forum/


Conclusion
This has been a long email. But, I felt it was important to send out due to the recent events. Many members had questions and wanted to hear our take on this whole situation. Most importantly they wanted to know what directions we are taking with PIFT. I can ensure you that I do not plan on going anywhere anytime soon. I love this industry and love running PIFT.

With that said I want to thank everyone that has helped make PIFT the success it has become. PIFT has far exceeded where I thought we would be and now I firmly believe that we will become even bigger and better than before.

For those of you who still have doubts about the future of PIFT or simply just want to talk to me and ask some questions. I can be reached at (757)301-0793 . I am on Eastern Standard Time, so please don't call at 3am in the morning. :)
If I don't answer, leave a message with your phone number and I will call you back.

If you want to contact me via Skype my ID is: payitforwardtraffic

Until next time...

Take care...

Tony




***Important Disclaimer
I do need to stress that we are an Advertising Program and not an Investment Program. When your buy Ad Levels/Packs you are buying Advertising. The Revenue Sharing portion of our program is simply a bonus and depends on Revenue coming into our program. The proposed revenue sharing rate and the proposed referral commissions on purchases may be varied if necessary at times of slow growth to ensure the continued operation of the program.
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I knew something was up.

Adventure4u.com news

I had to drag my head out of the daze ... you know that feeling you have when you've just been pulled out of a deep sleep after only resting for a short time.

I checked my computer and quickly saw the reason for all the phone calls.

I got the same email that everyone else got - and I am every bit as floored as everyone else. (Probably even more so.)

I believe the email is genuine. The style of writing is similar to emails we've received from Steve in the past. (i.e. Spelling errors, tone, flow of the email, etc...)

Many people have told me they do not understand what he said. I have gone through the email very carefully and it seems pretty clear to me.


1. Ad-Ventures4U, as a revenue sharing platform, is over. That's the bottom line. Steve said in the email that he and his family are being threatened and this whole thing is just not worth it to him. He said "I really really wanted to continue but with the current events with the scammers and the hackers and the attacks to the site I just cannot continue the revenue sharing portion of the program."
2. If you were in profit, you will not receive any future earnings no matter how many ventures you have. He said "All members that have cashed out out revenue and is in profit you will be able to keep your purchased ventures and use the product that you have purchased but will NOT Share in this last Revenue Share."
3. Anyone who was not in profit will have the opportunity to cash out one final time. He said "The remaider of the members will be invovled in this last revenue share and will have the opp to request a cashout and share in our Revenue. We have enough revenue to make this worth your wild to collect on." (Typical spelling errors here. Remainder is misspelled as "remaider", involved is misspelled as "invovled", the common term "worth your while" (meaning it is worth your time) is written by Steve as "worth your wild" which is incorrect, but typical of his style.)
4. The site, Ad-Ventures4U.com will continue on as an advertising vehicle and they will be introducing more "products." He said "The site will continue to grow and we have a great place to advertise and you will see allot more products to purchase. We are better than traffic swarm and we are listed on google as number one." (He should have said "...you will see a lot more products..." The word "allot" is a form of allotted or allocating, it means to distribute between or among. Again, this misuse of grammar is typical of Steve. I am not picking on the guy. I am just saying that I believe the email is genuine because these are common mistakes he makes.)
5. Steve reiterated the point that people are threatening him and his family and this is the reason for his decision to discontinue the revenue share. He said "We have been threatened and my family is more important to me than most will know. We Never ever said the revenue share was a set % and inorder to move other income forward I made a decision that put my family in danger and I will not tolerate that." (Small typo in that sentence. "inorder" would be "in order", but he probably just missed the space bar by accident.)
6. Steve mentions that basically the psychopaths have gotten the better of him. He said "99% of the members understood where we were going but the small % that I am scared of I just cannot risk because we really are who we said we are and we really did intend to move us into the future."
7. Processing the current cash outs are their primary priority right now. He said "We will not be answering scary support or answering the phone anymore until we have completed the cashout requests." (This is kind of amusing from a grammatical point of view because it indicates that they will resume answering scary support tickets and answering the phone after they've completed the cash outs. However, I know that was not what he intended to say.)
8. The Gold Site will go forward as planned. He said "The gold site will continue and we do have a referral commission program."
9. Anyone who has mailed in a check, money order, or cash which is in transit will have their funds returned. He said "All upgrades from this point that has been sent thru the mail will be returned to the sender."
10. As stated in point #1, the revenue share is over as soon as they are done processing cash outs for this final week. He said "Once the Revenue Share is complete that will be the final one and all earnings will have been paid out and we will end our Revenue Share portion of the site."
11. They will process cash outs as long as they can, but if members file complaints with the payment processors, the Ad-Ventures4U payment processor accounts will be frozen by the payment processors, and Ad-Ventures4U will lose control of their accounts and will not be able to process those payments. He said "We cannot control the Members so please give us to Aug 4th to process all payments because if members complain to the payment proccessors and they Freeze our accounts..." (Since August 4th was 24 days ago, we'll assume he met September 4th. The word processors is misspelled as "proccessors")
12. Communication will continue. He said "I will continue to communicate until the proccess is over so that you will not have to worry that I am not going to do what I said I was going to do." (The word process is misspelled as "proccess")

So there you have it. I've analyzed this email he sent very carefully and have given you my interpretation as best I can.

In a follow up email from Steve, he clarified a major point that a lot of people were very concerned about. He said "...we will also be sharing the revenue from the gold site until the all members are in profit." In other words, if you purchased 1,000 ventures and have thus far only earned $100 in return, Steve will use profits from the Gold Site to get your other $900 back to you.

Steve then went on to remind everyone that if they complain to the payment processors, the payment processors WILL freeze the Ad-Ventures4U accounts. If that happens, Ad-Ventures4U will have no way to pay you. He said "Reminder if the payment proccessor get frozen we cannot be held responsible for the earnings any longer." (The word processor is misspelled as "proccessor")

Unfortunately I have seen this kind of thing in the distant past. I suspect people will complain to all the payment processors and Ad-Ventures4U will lose control of their accounts within a few days. I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen it happen before.

As I said before, this is all as much of a shock to me as it is to everyone else. I've been in communication with Steve over the past many months and could not have seen this coming based on my conversations with him over the phone. Many of you were on the conference call with Steve 2 weeks ago to this day - and we all know that at that time, he was in full support of Ad-Ventures4U's future.

Steve has been very transparent with the members. Rather than hiding his identity like so many other admins do, his phone # and information have always been available. This helped many of us believe that he "had nothing to hide", but he seems to feel that his level of transparency has jeopardized the safety of his family.

Obviously this is a lot to take in. My phone is ringing constantly and emails are pouring in faster than I can keep up. So please understand I probably will not be able to take your call or reply to your email. I am putting out this email to my entire list so that I can communicate with as many people as possible.
Source : My up line news letter David C
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Liberty Reserve‏ Reenabled

We have reenabled purchases via Liberty Reserve now.
However if you have  apending cashout with LIberty Reserve
and would want to receive funds to SolidTrustPay, StrictPay or AlertPay,
we would much prefer to do so. If you want to change,
please send us an email to admin@15adsdaily.com with the details
of the account you want to be paid to so we can proceed

regards

Alex

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